This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team
What motivated you to pursue a career in law after your schooling at Sainik School Tilaiya and your experience with the NDA? How did your time at Campus Law Center, Delhi University, shape your legal perspective?
After completing my 10+2 from a Sainik School, I was selected for the NDA but could not join due to some medical issues. I then moved to Delhi for my graduation and enrolled in History (H). Initially, I chose Law to prepare for competitive exams, but I soon developed a genuine interest in the field and decided to pursue it as a career. During my college years, besides NLUs, the Campus Law Centre stood out with its excellent faculty and talented students. The case study method of teaching there fostered my interest in developing legal acumen.
What is your personal philosophy or mantra that you live by? How has it guided you through various phases of your life and career?
My philosophy and mantra in life is to be kind to others and work hard. Try not to pass the pressure on others. try to do the basics right and make things simpler.
Can you share your experiences working as a Legal Retainer at Indian Express Newspapers and simultaneously doing court reporting for UNI? How did this dual role contribute to your legal acumen?
I joined Indian Express Newspapers as a Legal Retainer immediately after completing my final semester exams. In this role, I represented the organization before various Courts and Tribunals. During my time with Indian Express, I had the privilege of working closely with some of the finest legal minds, particularly Mr. Nachiket Joshi. This period was a tremendous learning experience, and the knowledge I gained continues to benefit me in my current role as an in-house counsel. It has enhanced my decision-making abilities and problem-solving skills, which I feel are often lacking in colleagues without direct courtroom experience.
My extensive court reporting experience helped me build a strong rapport with court staff. Attending high-profile case hearings and grasping the essence of judgments early in my career was invaluable. Regular interaction with the judiciary significantly boosted my confidence. It became routine for me to visit the court in the evening and inquire about any significant judgments of the day. Publishing exclusive stories always brought a great sense of satisfaction.
You have worked in various sectors including mining, manufacturing, environment, real estate, media, and the automobile industry. How has your experience been in learning and adapting to the legal intricacies of each sector? What strategies did you employ to efficiently transition and excel in such diverse fields?
I feel that when you start thinking about how our legal system works in a given situation you can adjust and add value to any particular Industry. Many times you bring a fresh perspective to a new Industry. Yes, you need to understand the Business processes and intricacies in detail. Before joining any new industry, I spend some time reading the landmark judgements that have disrupted a particular industry. My exposure to Mining Industry when nothing was going in favour of the Industries due to court orders related to wildlife and Environmental clearances, renewal of Leases, and Illegal mining. It was a great challenge to convince the Management that everything would be normal over time.
This experience is now helping me cope with stress when things are not going my way.
As the Head of Legal at C K Birla Group Company, what are some of the most challenging cross-border transactions or contract law cases you’ve handled? Can you share any unique experiences or lessons from these cases?
During my present stint with C K Birla Group Company wherein I am heading NBC Bearings, an automotive Component manufacturer, one of the challenging situations I faced was when I joined the organisation there was a pending CCI investigation faced by the Industry, Now when the final judgement is pronounced and are in public domain I feel that there is no harm in sharing the details, Company has volunteered and filed a leniency application and accepted participating in one of the meetings, Though they were second in the marker therefore not eligible for full leniency. Now my concern was how to get full relief for the Company, in my view the Cartel was not made out. We tried to build our case on that principle. We pleaded that it was a case of coercive cartel even if we participated in one of the meetings. finally, CCI directed a cease and desist order but didn’t impose any penalty. On the Contract front also many of our customers are large OEMs who have standard contracts and are reluctant to modify them for different suppliers, in that case, you have to show your soft skills and put up your point and document it so that in case of any future dispute it can be relied upon. As I have worked for the OEM I also initially found it a little difficult but later on I realised that the real test is to convince the other party when you have lesser bargaining power.
We always approach the Big Four firms and top consultants for foreign acquisitions. However, challenges arise when it comes to managing the small companies we have incorporated abroad, especially in a cost-effective manner. This company has experienced substantial growth during this period, which has consistently kept the legal team on its toes.
How do you mentor and drive your legal team to ensure they are equipped to handle complex legal issues? What are the key qualities you believe are essential for a successful legal team?
Our legal team is not big as compared to many other companies but I always try to motivate them with challenging situations and rewards. Many times the aspirations of the legal team do not match with the company’s policy of reward and recognition but we always try to push the case of a specialist. Mentoring the young talent is the most crucial part of our team, I do not micromanage the things with my team. A firm believer in delegating work and decision-making.
What advice would you give to young legal professionals who aspire to have a diversified and impactful career like yours? What are the key skills and experiences they should seek out?
My advice to young lawyers particularly the first-generation lawyers would be to work hard and read the bare acts and judgments. nowadays with ready-made apps and online search engines we all at times take shortcuts and settle for superficial knowledge. Also, they must get some additional professional degrees like CS and others. It helps in difficult times. Also, be connected to the Bar.
Outside of your legal career, what personal interests or hobbies do you pursue? How do these activities help you maintain a work-life balance and stay motivated in your professional life?
I like to Travel, and now most of my leisure time is spent with my Pet. It helps me to be in the present.
Based on your extensive experience, what do you see as the future trends in legal practice, especially in the fields of litigation and compliance? How should current and future legal professionals prepare for these changes?
I believe that mediocre-level legal tasks will face significant competition from AI. However, I also feel that it will be a while before people start relying solely on AI tools. Certainly, these tools can be helpful to legal practitioners. In the coming days, legal professionals will need to be versatile advisors, sometimes offering counsel in fields beyond law. While it is easier to build a repository for compliances, there are many instances where taking a calculated risk is necessary to compete and succeed. That’s where sound legal advice becomes invaluable for risk assessment.
How have recent global events, such as the pandemic or changes in international trade policies, impacted your legal strategies?
Pandemics have touched and changed all strata of society including the Legal field, We have also gone for a complete paperless documentation system, remote working is seen as a norm today. Sometimes it increases productivity also. Many times when you are in the office it is difficult to concentrate on high-stakes documentation.
Finally, I can say that when I started my career it was a time when we used to point out that this is not permissible as per Law, Slowly I moved to the narration that it’s a Business call, now with more than 20 years of experience I am in a position to say it’s my call, As I understand both Business and Law.
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